Creating Unshakeable Self Confidence

112. Embracing Personal Style: Balancing Comfort and Fashion in Everyday Life w/ Lynn Masih

Sheri Brasier Episode 112

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Fashion is more than just clothes—it's a way to express who we are, both personally and professionally. Join me as I sit down with Lynn Masih, a talented family nurse practitioner and certified life coach, to discuss her unique style journey. She opens up about her decision to switch to scrubs during the pandemic for their comfort and practicality, and how she's been redefining her wardrobe to balance comfort with style as she expands her coaching practice. Together, we explore the challenges of maintaining a personal style that fits various roles and settings, while still feeling confident and prepared for any occasion.

Just like you, I strive to always look "put together." But at times in my life it was hard to spend the time, especially when kids need to be at school early in the morning. This struggle is what led me to develop "five lifestyle categories" to streamline my wardrobe and feel confident no matter what day presented me with. This system not only optimizes my schedule but also allows me to present myself authentically without lots of outfit changes. "t's all about rocking practical fashion that makes life easier and helps you feel confident no matter what stage you're in!

Whether you're looking to redefine your wardrobe or just want to feel more stylish in your everyday life, this episode is packed with inspiration and practical advice to help you embrace your true self through fashion.

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Sheri Brasier (Bray-zure) is a boy mom, wife, entrepreneur, motivational speaker, an Advanced Certified Life Coach and Personal Stylist. She is passionate about helping women build their self image, love their life and who they are, and express themselves through their personal style.

She certified through the Life Coach School and is Advanced Certified in Faith Based Coaching with Jody Moore. She has been a guest teacher in Modern Charm School with Judith Gaton, a presenter at Pinners Conferences across the nation, and a guest on multiple podcasts.

Helping women see their own brilliance and be confident in who they were designed to be is her ultimate passion because confident women change the world.

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Speaker 1:

Thanks for coming. Lynn, it's so nice to have you here and we're going to have such a fun chat. So tell everyone who you are, where you are from. If you have a family, what do you do for a living? Do you coach? Just tell us all the things. Tell us where you are and who you are, and all the things.

Speaker 2:

Well, my name is Lynn Massey and I live in Maryland in the United States. Right now I'm at the beach in Delaware, but normally my life is in Maryland and I'm a family nurse practitioner. I have my own family practice in Maryland and I do primary care and women's care and I'm also a certified life coach and I really try to serve the South Asian Indian American population, or first generation immigrant population. We who people who are me, I was born here and I'm both I'm American and I'm South Asian Indian and we have a lot of challenges. I'm I'm married. I've been married for 24 years and I have two teenage sons, one I just sent to college and the other one is still at home in 10th grade. They're wonderful, wonderful boys. Being a mom of boys has been excellent. I love it. Yes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, me too. I'm a boy mom and I'm a good dad, so I love it. Well, the conversation that I would love to have with you is geared around style, because I'm a personal stylist, a wardrobe stylist. I'm also a hairstylist. I've been a hairstylist for my entire life, so being in the fashion industry and the beauty industry is just where I've lived my life and so I've been making, teaching women how to be beautiful and helping them with their self-confidence and stuff is just kind of what I've done my whole life. It's kind of just in me. But doing this wardrobe styling and and bringing the fashion and clothing into it has really been a fun, interesting thing for me to learn, and so I just wanted to have some conversations with other coaches, other business women, other women that are in the professional space around style and how you feel it shows up in your, in your life. How do you think style shows up in your life?

Speaker 2:

How do you think style shows up in your life? So, you know it's, it's really interesting because I have been thinking about this topic for some time now and um, and how it's really been. I don't know if it was all COVID or what, but things started to get sloppy, right, yeah, right, pre COVID I didn't even wear a white coat to work and I mostly, you know, dressed up, business casual or even skirts and things, dresses, sometimes nice pants, blouses. You know I felt fairly put together. Um, and then, after COVID, I just I didn't want to bring home germs, I just I switched back to scrubs. I, um, you know, put up, put my white coat back on and, um, it was actually really relieving to just not think about it, to um, not care about that one piece, not shop, you know, uh and um, well, you know, it's been four years since COVID, Um, and so I, I still wear scrubs to work. Um, I work, I like being comfortable at work and they're very comfortable. If I'm going anywhere after work, I will generally wear something that I'm not in scrubs and it feels good to have that mix of, you know, being comfortable sometimes and being more put together other times.

Speaker 2:

I, my style outside of work has been comfort only. It's been I, I will. I love being in lounge clothes, I love being in I mean, I work out, and so I will make sure that I am wearing something that will let me go to the gym and not have to. I'm not all put together first thing in the morning, cause I have a plan of you know, shower after that or whatever. Uh, but you know, unless I'm going to see people in person and even that doesn't mean shopping or groceries or errands right, if I'm actually going to be somewhere, I take that back and it's not really good friends or my parents Then I will put actual, like I'm like that's a really long list of where I will shower and then still wear really loungy things, because I love to be comfortable and I don't need to do that.

Speaker 2:

I need to figure out how I can have a sense of style and be comfortable. I think that's possible and, um, and you know so, so when I shop I am looking for that these days um, when I I go to church and so I have, um, nicer clothes, I do dress up. When I go to church, I feel like I am put together and you know, but as soon as we're done, I want to put my pajamas on. You know like it's, it is it? I don't feel, um, I might feel like myself, but I don't necessarily. I feel stuffy. I feel stuffy. I feel stuffy in in clothes that are dressed up.

Speaker 2:

I hate wearing heels these days, and but so most of my heels are, you know, either kitten style or, like you know don't definitely don't have any really high heel anymore and as I age, like all of these things, um, and as I age, like all of these things, we're getting less and less important. And so, you know, being um fancy, I guess, but, um, I see the need, I see the need to not let it all go and, uh, I, I have plans to be more, um public facing and I have plans to be more public facing and I have plans to be to do more in coaching, where I'm in front of people and holding myself in a certain way, and I've did a workshop recently. I felt great with what I had on and everything. It doesn't take away that I need to get out of these shoes as soon as I'm done, but I would love to find something in between that where I'm comfortable and have a good sense of style, where I feel good most days.

Speaker 1:

And I think that there's a lot of women that are transitioning. Probably, you know, mid-40s ish, I would say you're starting to uh, kind of like you were saying, like the older I get, the less I care about certain things, but then the older I get, the more I care about certain things. But then the older I get, the more I care about certain things. Yeah, so different things, yeah, so I think it's really good for us to figure out what things you don't care about and why. So that? Like, maybe you don't feel like you need to be as fancy at work. Maybe that's where you were, you know, 10 years ago or whatever it was and you're feeling like you know what, I don't know, that I really want to be that fancy at work, for whatever reason. Right, if you like your reasons, then great, but it doesn't mean we have to wear scrubs either.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Right, yes, I mean, the options are not scrubs or workout pants or a tight skirt. Yeah, those are not the only options.

Speaker 1:

Yes, right, and I think where, where you are and you're, you're a hundred percent right in the same place that most of my clients are in. They're in this place where I don't really feel like I want to dress, you know, fancy, but I do want to feel like I look good and like I'm put together and like I have some sense of style. I don't always just want to wear joggers and tennis shoes.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Although, if I do want to wear joggers and tennis shoes, I want to look cute. Yes, right.

Speaker 1:

And yeah, I think that you're you're. You're hitting on something that a lot of women are are in. They're in that same place, right? So there's a lot of us that are well for me, I'll just speak for myself. I have been a hairstylist for 28 years and I've stood behind a chair for hours and hours and hours upon hours in, I might say, not the greatest shoes, and so now I'm starting to have some feet. I don't want to say issues, because I don't really have feet issues, but my feet are definitely more comfortable in certain shoes and less comfortable in other shoes, where before I could just wear whatever I wanted to wear and they were fine. My feet could stand whatever shoe I put on it. Where now I'm like do I want to wear those shoes all day? Maybe I don't want to wear those shoes all day, or maybe I just want to wear those shoes for the hour I'm going to be wherever those shoes?

Speaker 2:

Um, yeah, yes, no, I I have shoes that I consider my, my two hour shoes, my four hour shoes, my walk in DC shoes, my uh, go, just go to a restaurant shoes. I mean, it's yeah, I can look at a pair and say, oh, I can be in those, but I can't walk anywhere, right, yes, yes.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

If we're going to go in and sit for some hours, then I can wear those shoes. But, like you know, I will routinely wear a pair of shoes to a wedding and bring another pair for the reception. Right Like those and they're not always flip-flops, but like they definitely are more comfortable, and I know that most women do things like this. So think about it, at least we're just so. Why we have to wear these anyway to begin with, no idea.

Speaker 1:

But this is. This is a great conversation. I've had it several times and this is one of the main things that that I it's kind of a foundation of my, my program and the way that I style people is I have five. I have my clients come up with five lifestyle categories. So what are you getting dressed for in your life and do you have the clothes that you want to have for that category?

Speaker 2:

So do you want me to answer or you're not ready yet?

Speaker 1:

You have more questions, go ahead, go ahead. If you've got an answer for me, tell me.

Speaker 2:

So five lifestyle categories there's work at my clinic, work outside my clinic, cause that could mean marketing. Um, even with my clinic I do. I meet special other specialists and I go to professional dinners and things like that. Um, it's also part of my coaching that would be outside of my clinic. Um, church or any special event would pop. Similar right like special sometimes is even fancier than what I would wear to church, but, um, church is regular and so I would want something for that. And then there is hang out. Okay, maybe I'm more than five. Okay, hang out um with friends, even like simple date nights. Um. And then there is being in the house and running errands, right, and working out.

Speaker 1:

Working out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yes, I guess that's six, that's probably those are the ones. And, like, I have all kinds of cute clothes that I never wear because I choose comfy over them, because those clothes aren't comfortable, not as comfortable.

Speaker 1:

I mean, what's more comfortable than a fuzzy pair of joggers?

Speaker 2:

I mean, I happen to be wearing a t-shirt and joggers, right now.

Speaker 2:

I mean, and the thing is is that we're at the beach, um, we come to the beach often, so it's not like really as special as it used to be.

Speaker 2:

Um, we have a place here and so it's ours, and like, um, but my husband is bringing my, my 15 year old and three of his friends tonight, and I came last night and he's bringing them tonight, and so, like, what we're doing at the beach is I'm hanging out with four 15 year olds and my husband, right, and so what I packed is a pair of jeans and two pairs of joggers and hoodies and nothing cute, like we're not.

Speaker 2:

I mean, we're not going anywhere fancy to eat where I don't have a dress, or like, normally, when we come to the beach, I would like to have at least one dress to wear out to dinner or after be spending time at the, you know, by the water or whatever. But it's cooler now and like I nothing, nothing that I would want to anybody to, to, I don't know, see me. I mean I, here's why I know that I need, I need help. Okay, tell me, lynn, I will wear my Aaron clothes, my house clothes, my comfy hangout, which I try to wear more than anything else, probably, and I will run into someone, a patient, a patient.

Speaker 2:

I will run into, uh, somebody, somebody a colleague a colleague and I'm not at the gym, right, and I'm not at the gym right. It's different if I'm at the gym and I look like I'm supposed to go to the gym, but um, and that's when I think I really got to do something.

Speaker 1:

You are not alone, but you. This is the conversation that I have with all of my clients, a hundred percent of my clients and I had this conversation with myself years ago. Didn't realize that I'd had this conversation with myself until I started helping other women, didn't realize that I'd had this conversation with myself until I started helping other women. But there was a time when I had little kids and I have twins, and so they they're actually not actual twins. We long story short.

Speaker 1:

A lot of my listeners know our story, my story with this, but we had a really hard time getting our kids here. We have infertility and miscarriages and all of that stuff in our in our past, right? So one of our boys is adopted because we were going through that and that was that was what we needed to do, chose to do. It has been such a an amazing experience for us and I don't want to go into all of that, but we have one that's adopted. Well, when he was five days old, I found out I was pregnant. Oh, my goodness, yeah. So my two that are at home still are seven months apart.

Speaker 2:

Wonderful yes.

Speaker 1:

So that when they were little was madness I mean, that's just the only thing I can say. It was madness. It was beautiful and amazing and all of the things right, but it was hard and there was not a lot of sleeping happening and so I didn't have a lot of a lot of care or want to do anything but just survive. And there was a time I'm a hairstylist and I've been a hairstylist forever, and I would see clients in the grocery store and colleagues in the grocery store and and I felt like I was always kind of apologizing or like, don't look at me, and today I'm not a hairstylist. That was what I would say. Like today I'm not a hairstylist, I'm. I'm mom today, right, and I'm a. You know, I'm running errands or I'm working in the garden or I'm mowing the lawn or whatever it is Like.

Speaker 1:

I felt like I had to qualify because of the way that I looked and probably what they would expect me to look like, because of my profession and who I am, just as a person. And I decided that I hated that. Yeah, I hated having to qualify my life and who, where I was and where I wasn't, and what I was and what I wasn't, and you know all of the things. I hated that. I that I felt like I needed to do that and I realized that every single person that I came into contact with and apologized for how I was looking or whatever, didn't actually care. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

I believe that they weren't the ones that cared. I was the one that cared. I cared how I showed up, I cared how I looked, I cared how I felt. Right, they didn't care. They loved me for who I was and they, they had their own lives going on. They, whatever, they didn't care. It was me. I was the one that cared and I just decided I don't want. I don't want to feel like that anymore. I don't want to be caught somewhere with my pants down Right.

Speaker 1:

I don't like that feeling of being caught off guard. And so I sat down with myself and had a little conversation like how, how do I want to dress for me so that when I'm anywhere, no matter where it is, doesn't matter if I'm at the doctor's office or if I'm at church, or if I'm at the gym, or I'm at the grocery store, or wherever I am I want to feel good about myself, I want to feel and this is where my style statement comes in, for my, for me personally, is, you know, I want to feel current, I want to feel put together, I want to look stylish and feel stylish. Um, those are all things that I wanted for myself. And so that's where the five lifestyle categories was born, because I would get up in the morning and I would ask myself where am I going today, what am I doing today, what activity am I am I doing, and how do I want to look doing that thing when showing up at that activity?

Speaker 1:

And so, for your lifestyle categories, I would say you don't have six, you probably have four, at least for now, like the ones that you, that you called off right, because a lot of those things you're going to wear the same same style of clothing. You're going to wear the same type of stuff. You might switch out a pair of shoes for something different, depending on what it is you're doing, or put on a blazer to dress it up, or a moto jacket to be a little bit edgier. Date night ish, um, something like that. Like a lot, of, a lot of the things that we wear, we think that we have to, um, be dressed up and that that is the only outfit, like that's the only option for that outfit, and so then I have to change my whole outfit if I'm going to go somewhere else or do something else. Right, but really you can just change out your shoes and your jacket, put on earrings and then you're good to go.

Speaker 2:

you don't actually have to change your clothes, just add or take out things, depending on the the activity I often will over over plan my day like um with time you know, meaning and going from one thing to another thing without, um, going home first to consider what I look like, and so that might look like, uh, making sure a kid is at school, or you know, sometimes I drop them off. I might go straight to the gym. After the gym I get gas, I might get my eyebrows done. I might get to the grocery store, and then I come home yeah, yes, because it's not convenient to go home store, and then I come home yes, because it's not convenient to go home and get ready for my day.

Speaker 2:

And then, you know, I feel like. You know, time is such a priority and commodity. You know that I really maximize my time when I'm out and once I'm home, I don't want to necessarily go back out, I mean, unless it's, you know, hours later and we do something else or whatever, but that's that ends up happening to me more than I'd like, and you know, there's days where I'll still be looking like that all day, or I have a plan to clean something, Right.

Speaker 2:

And so I'm not going to be put together before that yeah Right, I totally get it.

Speaker 1:

I totally understand.

Speaker 2:

I get a lot of things done this way, right, and I got a lot of things done this way, and so that's a lot.

Speaker 1:

I got a lot of things done this way, and so that's probably what's kept me right from yes, right and put together and we know, we know as coaches, that you, uh you, you are doing the things you're doing for a reason, yes, and it's working for you until it's not yes, I think, if I move, just move the needle a little bit that I'll be okay because, like what, oh, wish I didn't look like this.

Speaker 2:

But like, honestly, it doesn't happen that often and I have worked on self-acceptance for a very long time and so I'm I'm less concerned about what other people think of me, and so I, when it happens, I feel like you know, if I just took a little bit more time to do the work on this part, I'd be in a place that I want to be Right, cause, like I, when I list the things that I have to do and then I get done in a day and I'm like I don't know when I would get ready before that, and like I think I think what is that time?

Speaker 1:

yeah, like, what it comes down to is what does getting ready look like for you? Like what is the yeah, taking a shower?

Speaker 2:

doing my hair, putting some makeup on and then addressing my body right, um, and so I have, when I commit to doing that, doing those things. I think it would be like every day at a certain time, it's not but you don't think that.

Speaker 1:

None of us think that it is.

Speaker 2:

I think what am I doing after that? Right, and so if it is more of the I'm staying home, the I'm staying home, right, it ends up being um, fairly loungy.

Speaker 1:

If it is, I am. You don't have a dog too? She's got dog hair right. There's my dog.

Speaker 2:

Did you hear him?

Speaker 1:

No, I can't Speaking of dogs on command, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So like I don't want to be in nice stuff where I'm getting dog hair all over my stuff, right, and so there's that, right, for sure, for sure. Life, yeah. But you know, sometimes we go to my parents' house for dinner. It's really low key and casual, it's just my immediate family and my sister's family and usually never other people. And so I will go like this, you know, and they, they love me, I don't care, and my she, my sister won't comment then, but she will comment other times to me and she does put herself together and I have, uh, she looks good all the she look, she always looks like she's put together all the time. I have that.

Speaker 2:

Maybe this is where some of this comes from, because she'll say like, yeah, you wear workout clothes a lot. Yeah, I'm like okay, maybe when I just see you, you know. But then it's like thinks a little bit, but not really, I don't put that much. She's different than me, you know, and her, her need to present herself is also different than mine. It's, uh, she, I believe that she likes more external validation than I do, and so I again, that's okay, and it also makes her feel great and she does her nails and stuff like that. I none of that is important to me, you know, and so um, I'd rather spend my money on experiences and yeah, and it's it really goes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it really goes down to what we value. Yeah, right, like I mean I'm. I am 100% aware that not everyone loves the things I love. Yeah, right, like, this is how I look every day. Just, it is.

Speaker 2:

I look great yeah.

Speaker 1:

It looks great. This is just who I am. It just is. I am a little bit more fancy, like I just, in general, like to be a little bit more fancy, and it has nothing to do with everybody else. I do this for me because I like it, because when I catch a glimpse of myself in the store window, this is what I want to see, right? So, um, that that's okay If that isn't important to you, but I kind of think that it is.

Speaker 2:

There is. I mean, there are definitely things that are deeper that go with this. Again, I do a lot in my own self-development, in my own self-coaching and journaling, and I have done a lot just around this topic, and it is it, you know, growing up. So my, my parents immigrated here from India. I was born here and they had nothing. I mean, they both were nurses, so they came with professional degrees or diplomas and were able to get licensed fairly quickly, but they built everything they have from scratch, basically, and they went really far.

Speaker 2:

Families in the United States, because of hard work, saving and not spending, outrageously though, we never were without anything, never were without anything, never felt financially insecure, never felt any of those things. But I have some guilt around spending. I have some guilt around spending and I think it comes from that. I saw how hard my parents worked and so I didn't want to ask them for stuff, not that I thought they'd say no, but I didn't feel like I needed it. I just felt like they work so hard, they have sacrificed so much for us and I don't need it. Things have come up for me, you know, around the subject, and I know some of it has to do with childhood.

Speaker 1:

Which is where a lot of women are at, and they just put on what they know fits and is comfortable, and it'll do.

Speaker 2:

We, my husband and I, have made a point to, when we go on vacation, that we take only a carry on and a personal item, doesn't matter where we're going. We went to Australia last week last year for two weeks and took a carry on. And took a carry on and a personal item each one of us right.

Speaker 2:

Wow and so it is. I mean, that was a real big feat. And somehow I can take really cute things with me. And you know, because I'm limited in my space, I'm really choosy about what I take Cute, comfortable dresses. I have a variety of pants that work all the time, and so how I dress on a vacation where I'm limited definitely makes a difference for me. We definitely I'm not working out every day there.

Speaker 2:

I, you know, might bring one workout outfit to use that if I need to more than once. You know outfit to use that if I need to more than once. You know, um, I only bring two pairs of shoes always. It's like, I know, it's like, not like most women, but I'm like I I'm. I'd rather have less stuff with me and be okay and just deal with what I have, you know, um, so I'll wear cute tennis shoes, you know, with dresses, or I have cute Birkenstocks or something like that, that sandals that are comfy and you can walk in all day. I think I need to figure out, maybe, how to do that in my everyday life.

Speaker 1:

Well and honestly, when you're going on vacation, the noise that's the everyday noise. When you're going on vacation, you say, shh, that's true, not now. Like we got to focus on this thing, we got this. Like we only have a carry on and a personal item, so we're not right. But when you're in your regular life, it's like your old sweatpants that you just put on and you just listen to it, because it's regular.

Speaker 2:

I have a pair of sweatpants that went into the wash with, or the dryer or something with a pen, an ink pen. I haven't gotten rid of them. Where are they around the house? I haven't gotten rid of them. Where are they around?

Speaker 1:

the house.

Speaker 2:

My house was like what are you doing? Yeah, they're really comfy. Yeah, yeah, I won't go out outside of the house in them, but I like I don't know what I'm, why do I have them still, I have no idea, but I do. I have no shame.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's, and and honestly, you're, you're just, you're, you're just talking to the choir, like I. All of us have been through it, all of us are like, and the listeners right now are going yeah, she's my girl, I love her, she's speaking to me, right?

Speaker 2:

I think there are people like me.

Speaker 1:

There are, there are people like you, just like it, and there's nothing wrong with you any thoughts about how I could even move the needle a little bit well? I think, I'd like to go yeah, I think that admitting to yourself that you, that you do actually care, okay, in in more scenarios than you're allowing yourself to realize like you really do care about, you know looking stylish, you just don't know how to do it and still keep the ease and comfort. Yes, it's got to be, really high on the list.

Speaker 1:

It's got to be easy and not take a lot of brain power to do, and it's got to be comfortable. And you're a coach, you know this. Our brain only wants to ever do three things Seek pleasure, avoid pain and make it easy. Right, so it's the same thing. You've just got to figure out, ask yourself, what is it? That's the minimum baseline where I'm going to go anywhere, that I, if I leave this house, I'm going to feel like I'm okay, I'm going to for me. I'll just give you an example. I have fake eyelashes because mascara and I don't get along. I have never been able to find a mascara that stays on my face have never been able to find a mascara that stays on my face and, like I, just that's a real, that's a real problem.

Speaker 1:

It really it's a real thing. And so for me, for the longest time, I would go get eyelash extensions and I would pay for eyelash extensions because it was cheaper than buying mascara and throwing it in the garbage Because another one that doesn't work, another one that doesn't work, another one that doesn't work right, and then I would spend so much time trying to get my mascara on so that it would look right, so that it would look right, so that I mean I don't even the layers of mask. The time and the money that I would spend on mascara was ridiculous. And so I got eyelash extensions because it saves me money and it saves me time and it saves me drama in my head. So for the longest time, I would get eyelash extensions. They were expensive, the time that it took for me to lay there and get them done, all the things and then I found some ones that I can put on myself. They're really easy to put on myself, really easy to put on myself. They are extremely affordable and I it takes me about two and a half minutes to put them on. I don't have to put them on every day. I can sleep in them, shower in them, all the things, and I do that because it makes my getting ready time in the morning so much faster.

Speaker 1:

So the eyelashes is probably not going to be your thing. Like you may not want to put eyelashes on, that might not be your thing, but my point is I do the eyelashes and I spend the money on the eyelashes or the time on the eyelashes to learn how I do it or whatever it is, because it ultimately saves me so much time and I look like I'm put together no matter what I'm wearing, because I have my eyelashes on and so for me it's high maintenance. Like people would look at me and say, well, she's just high maintenance, she must think. She must really care about what other people think because she's all done up all the time. No, it took me like 20 minutes to get ready today because I have eyelashes on. I haven't washed my hair in four days.

Speaker 2:

That's say, tell me you're a hairstylist without telling me you're a hairstylist.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I found these, these, these are prescription glasses like I wear. I wear prescription glasses and I I purposely got them so that they were a style accessory. Yeah, like they're not just so that I can see everything. They're a style accessory for me so that when I don't have any other makeup on, it's fine, I have my eyelashes and my glasses. I'm good to go right, it doesn't matter where I'm going, it doesn't matter what I'm wearing, it doesn't matter, I will have my eyelashes on and I have these really cool glasses. So, like that's where I would ask you like, what is it about your appearance? For you, not for anybody else. For you, I do these glasses and eyelashes for me, it's not for anybody else. It's for me to feel, like I want to feel every day, all day long, like what, what do you think it would be for you?

Speaker 2:

So I have been working on my skincare routine. I often will go without makeup. I do feel better when I'm in makeup, but it's really important for me to be to feel like I have a good. Like that, my skin looks great. Radiant skin yes.

Speaker 1:

Radiant skin.

Speaker 2:

I want to feel good in my skin, literally.

Speaker 1:

So it sounds like you have a pretty good base baseline for you know your skincare.

Speaker 1:

Like just think about your day, like this next week, or maybe even last week, where you were, or maybe even last week where you were that you were like I mean, I would have liked to have had my powder and my eyeliner on when I went there to that thing or did that thing, whatever Right.

Speaker 1:

And then think, okay, I was doing all these things and I'm not going to sacrifice productivity in order to do it. I'm not going to drive home to do it, right, like we both know. I'm not going to sacrifice productivity in order to do it. I'm not going to drive home to do it, right, like we both know. I'm not going to do that Right, and I would never ask you to. But could you bring it with you and hurry and dust it on before you go and then put, like, bring some kind of a stylish jacket to put over top of your workout clothes, to go somewhere like there? It's just little simple, little things like that that you could consider, and then your brain will take it. Your brain will do what it needs to do if you can just give it a little bit of space.

Speaker 2:

I have never even considered those options.

Speaker 1:

Right, only if that's important to you. Like, I'm not telling you you need to, if it's important to you. That's why. That's why it would be good for you to think back to the last week, or maybe the last two weeks, or whatever it is, and and really ask yourself what, what would I like myself? How would I like myself to show up in those places, like, what really would I like? And if it's, we're at the beach and I'm with my boys and they're friends and we're playing and I'm going to be in sweats because that's what I want to do, great, great, that's, that's fine. What, what about it? Do you feel like you would like to dress up, not in heels, but like, elevate, like? Is your style at the beach with your kids something that you feel like you want to to elevate?

Speaker 2:

um, no, no, I'm. I am here by myself today and I can be out in public, and I kind of wish I had something else okay, that's good to know.

Speaker 1:

I think, yes, no, that's really good for you to know.

Speaker 1:

It is Because if you're in a t-shirt right now and some joggers, then the only thing that you would need to be more put together is a puffer vest and some fashion sneakers yes, I have all of those things and didn't even didn't consider, right, yeah but you know I can't because we think about like oh, that means I have to like, that means I have to put in heels and a skirt and jeans no, I probably wouldn't have gone that far, but yes, I got you right, because we, we just don't think about the base, the baseline that we're going to naturally be in. That's going to be comfortable to us, like, how can I just elevate that just a little? That's really all you have to do.

Speaker 2:

That is a really good thought. How can I just elevate what I'm in? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So if you're in a really cute graphic tee and some cute joggers that are comfortable, then find a fashion sneaker. They're really popular right now. Oh yeah, I have some. Yeah, definitely, find a fashion sneaker and some kind of a third layer, like a vest or a moto jacket or a jean jacket, even that's like gonna go over the third layer, and then, if you're a jewelry person, just add on a little earring or a bracelet or you know something like that and you look like you're put together.

Speaker 2:

I love this. This, this is great advice.

Speaker 1:

And you can do that with anything that you have on as your base layer.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to work on this. You could even put on yeah, I think I even own the things. Yes, you?

Speaker 1:

I'm sure you do. I'm sure you do, cause listen to this, I'm going to blow your mind. You have a t-shirt and joggers on, and let's just say that you have a place there, so you frequent there, right? Yes, I would assume that maybe you have gotten to know some of the other people that have houses there, so you have some friends there, right? Yes, there, so you have some friends there, right? Yes, let's just say that last night one of your neighbors you were out in the yard or whatever and one of your neighbors is like oh my gosh, lynn, I didn't know you were coming this weekend. We should go to lunch. Have you got time to go to lunch with me tomorrow? And you're like, right, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it crossed my mind. I have somebody here. I would love to see it. I'm like I didn't bring squat to go out anywhere.

Speaker 1:

Yes, right, but what if you had? I mean, you could have a pair of jeans. Would would probably work best. But if you didn't have a pair of jeans and you only had your jockers, you could dress it up with a little bit of a like a wedge booty, because a little wedge booty and it doesn't have to be a high wedge, it could be just a little little wedge booty and a blazer that's like a knit blazer, and that would be a elevated casual, yeah, and you would look like you were put together.

Speaker 1:

I probably just need to spend some time maybe trying different things together and I never, ever once, said you had to get rid of your comfy joggers. I know you can still wear your comfortable joggers and your t-shirt, because that's who you are. It is. It is. No one wants you to not be who you are.

Speaker 2:

Right, I'm more fun when I'm comfortable.

Speaker 1:

So so am I and, honestly, like, I'm super comfortable today. But I have a button down shirt, a very fancy vest that, I might add, I got in Alaska and it's so cute and a pair of jeans and I'm in heels. But I am very comfortable today because that is my comfort level. Yeah, right, you don't have to have my comfort level. We want you to have your comfort level, but you want to elevate your style a little bit? I do so.

Speaker 1:

We want you to be comfortable in your outfit formula. That is you, and then just take it up a little bit, just elevate it, just just just notch. Have your go-to jackets, your go-to um vests like this is a vest, it's a fancy vest, right, it wouldn't necessarily have to be something like this, unless it's you, unless you like it. Right, then I could put this on um over top of a t-shirt and a black pair of joggers, and it would be very stylish, yes, and it's a little bit cool here. So I would want to put on something that was a little bit um, you know, thick, like this and it's got a hood.

Speaker 1:

I wouldn't wear the hood, but it's got a fleece lining and it's warm. I would wear this. I would want to wear something like this out because it's a little bit chilly, but I could wear a t-shirt underneath it and it would be super cute, like the t-shirt that you have on right now would be cute with this jacket, with this vest, and I don't know what color joggers you have on, but if they're black or what's that?

Speaker 2:

I said yes, oh black.

Speaker 1:

No, they're gray well, that would work too. But think about it like if you were. If you were to have a jacket like this, a vest like this, you could wear what you're wearing right now. Right, and if somebody said, hey, let's go to lunch, you would put yeah this jacket on and you would change your shoes into something a little bit more, a little bit nicer shoe than just a gym shoe, tennis shoe, right right, a nice sneaker, a pair of loafers. Even loafers are back, thank goodness.

Speaker 2:

Right. I have a I have a good selection of designer sneakers or, like fashion sneakers. I should say that that take me through not feeling um, um, they don't make me feel frumpy and things like that and they're comfortable and you can walk around bc in those.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, yes, yes, and just put on it's. I'm, I'm telling you, it's the third layer, like you think about your first and second layer is your top and your pants, and then I mean we could elevate those, mean we could elevate those two, like we could elevate those. Yes.

Speaker 2:

And I do, I do sometimes.

Speaker 1:

But what? But for this conversation and this is going to be so helpful for so many people is I'm not telling you that you can't get dressed in your comfortable clothes.

Speaker 2:

I did. I think I believed that I had to, that it was one or the other.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, and a lot of people do. A lot of people think that it's one or the other. They have a vision, it's that, it's that all or nothing. Thinking Like, we get ourselves stuck there and you can decide that you want to elevate your, your base layer if you want to elevate your, your base layer, if you want to. But you don't have to. But all and all you would need to do is just have a couple of little options that you can put on over top. Put on a little bit nicer shoe it could be a sneaker, it could be a loafer, and they're not going to hurt your feet. They're not fancy by any stretch, right, and you've just elevated your base. Look.

Speaker 2:

I'm going shopping after this.

Speaker 1:

Send me the pictures I want to see. I would love that, Like I would love for you to take like a before picture of you today, like this before and what I was wearing. Then you go shopping and just add. Just add something very simple, like I mean a puffer jacket.

Speaker 2:

I know they're, they abound. They can find one pretty easily.

Speaker 1:

There's all kinds of places. It does not have to be fancy, it doesn't. It can be, be. It can be if that's your style and if that's what you want, but it does not have to be. Yes, put on your fashion sneakers and if you're a purse girl, that's an accessory. If you're not a purse girl, that's fine, you don't have to have a purse. But think about, think about that. Just take your a sweatshirt, even put a puffer vest over your sweatshirt, yes, and that will up-level, that will elevate your look just a little.

Speaker 2:

One question on that before we wrap up. You got to go shopping that before we wrap up. I know, um, sometimes, when I wear puffy things, or even blazers, um, it makes me look bigger on top, and so, um, sometimes, you know, I, I need some things that that fit me in the waist better, um, and when they fit me in the waist better, um, and when they fit me in the waist better, then they sometimes are snugger, you know, or?

Speaker 2:

like they're snugger in the chest. If they fit me in the waist, better right and so or if they are, um, like I have a puffy vest and it looks okay, but adding layers sometimes adds bulk to my to my frame, yes, and I don't like how that looks. Okay, I don't have really skinny legs, where if you have a little bit more on top, you still have a slim figure right, and so I need to be able to show some shape versus the I mean the bulk, the bulk, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So that's a really good question, because you're not the only one that thinks this, and so this is going to be great for everybody. I'm going to put my little microphone on my pocket so I can stand up and sorry for everyone who's listening, you don't get to see everything. However, this pick, this outfit, will be on Instagram. It will be on my socials, because that's what I do, so you can go look at it there. But, um, to go into that, um, um, when I was younger, I had lots of chest and, um, my mom, uh, passed away 24 years ago breast cancer, and so, when I was done having babies and I didn't need them for that anymore, I had a breast reduction so that I could manage that, because my mom died of breast cancer.

Speaker 1:

So I've had that issue of trying to dress with a larger chest, and so I get what you're saying. So what I would recommend is I'm going to stand up so you can see the, the vest that I have on, and I'll probably I'll try to explain it for everybody else. So, um, can you see that? It's got like a, a shape to it? Yes, it's got pleats back here. These like a buckle, buckle and a whatever seams and whatever that create like the vest actually has a shape, so that when I put it on then it gives the illusion and it gives the shape to my body.

Speaker 1:

So, puffer vest, you can find puffer vests that are not super big and bulky and then, they have, like a, an elastic at the back that give them a little bit of a shape.

Speaker 1:

Um but maybe puffer jackets just aren't for your frame, and that's okay too. Um, that's good to know that. Maybe a puffer jacket just isn't going to work for your frame because it just overwhelms your frame because you're you're short, you're small, right, right. But I would look for blazers and jackets that have a shape already built in. You're gonna find ones that are boxy, they're out there, they're kind of in style, so you probably wouldn't have a hard time finding one, but that wouldn't work for your frame. You're going to want to. You're going to want to look for one that has the shape already built in so that it doesn't add bulk, it adds shape, correct. So that's what I would say. Yes, you got this girl, I do. I can see your brain is like I do, yes, I do think that some of these things are missing.

Speaker 2:

I definitely have not thought about elevating my style, as is like that's new for me, so I appreciate that.

Speaker 1:

Start with where you are, start with what's easy for you and where you're at, and we're just going to elevate it just a just a smidge. You will be blown away, when you start just opening that up just a little bit, of how many ideas will start to come in and things that you can do that are really just easy, simple things that you can just do without any thought or care. But it'll elevate your style and you'll love it. So awesome. Thank you so much for coming.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much for having me. This has been so great, so fun.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, such a fun conversation, and I know that there's so many of my listeners that are exactly where you're at, so I appreciate you bringing all of that up.